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Minutes Plumbing Board 12 18 09 MINUTES OF MEETING -PLUMBING BOARD DATE: December 18, 2008 Tom: 5:30pm LOCATION: City Garage, 925 Kerper Ct., Dubuque, IA Members Present: Jack Papin, Harlan Willenborg, Stanley Gonner Members Absent: Dan Harris, Mike Swift Staff Present: Jason Mooring Media Present: None Others Present: None Practical ezam started at 5:30pm and ended at 7:30pm. Two candidates were unsuccessful, Alan Hinderman, and Ted Boge. Cory Ransom was successful. Certification of Minutes, October 8, 2008 Jack Papin moved to accept the minutes as read. Harlan Willenborg seconded. All present in favor. Motion passed. New Business 1. Discussion of oven Plumbing Violations by Mississinni Valley Plumbing Ryan Naab (owner), Glen Naab (Master Plumber) Based on the history of repeated violations and disregard of the rules and ordinances of the City of Dubuque, unanimous motion to proceed with prosecution of Notice(s) of violation dated 3/17/08 and 12/8/08. Board recommended suspension of permitting privileges until this is resolved. Staff will proceed with a January court date. Time Line: 5/07 Valentine Park- no plumber on job- Action, NONE 8/07 (1sT OFFENSE) Olympic Heights, 521 & 495- No plumber on job, no inspection. Action: WRITTEN WARNING LETTER dated 8/29/07. 10/07 Office Club, inspection by mechanical inspector. 3/24/08 Mongolian Grill, inspection by mechanical inspector. No inspection of underslab inspection to determine existing (abandoned grease trap routing). Action: Required TV of drain lines post concealment of pipes. continued. Minutes of Meeting -Plumbing Board October 8, 2008 Page 2 of 2 3/29/08 (2nd OFFENSE) Lake Front Dr,(3260,3264,3268) - No permit, No contractor registration. Action: VIOLATION NOTICE WITH DOUBLE FEE FOR NO PERMIT OR REGISTRATION. sent 2/29/08. Resolution: None (pending since due date 3/17/08). 11/10/08 (3`d OFFENSE) Holliday Inn Express, 2080 Holliday Drive. Inspection by mechanical inspector. NO PERMIT, NO TEST/INSPECTION PRIOR TO PIPE CONCEALMENT. Action: NOTICE OF VIOLATION WITH DOUBLE FEE dated 11/29/08. Resolution: Pending due date 12/8/08. Denial of offense received 12/11/08. Note: At no time has Ryan Naab held a Plumbing license in the City of Dubuque or employed registered Apprentices during the above time frame. 2. Discussion of double wall heat ezchan~er annlications. Staffpresented relevant Plumbing code sections,('06 IPC 608.16.3 & '06 IRC P2603.6). Where combination space and potable hot water heater duty is combined in a single system to supply both hot domestic water and heat a hydronic loop(s), the sepazation must be by double wall heat exchanger in the following: Toxicity of transfer fluid is to be assumed if the space heating/hydronic side of the system is installed in a space likely to be subjected to freezing temperatures (i.e. outside of a building, in gazage floor,snow melt system, attic or crawlspace or any other place subjected to freezing temperatures). This interpretation is supported by the regional winter design temperature being well below 32F (Dubuque design temp. is -7F per table D101 of'06 Il?C) Public safety/cross connection control aze pazamount concerns. Several un-permitted and un-inspected hydronic pipe systems have been discovered that fall into a category listed above, and contractor states no anti freeze agent will be used, contrary to common sense, the laws of physics and the Plumbing Code. The above interpretation of double wall exchanger useage is agreed upon by the Board. Papin, 2nd by Willenborg. All in favor. Adiournment Harlan Willenborg motioned to adjourn. Seconded by Jack Papin. Meeting was adjourned by voice vote at 6:OOpm. Practical tests concluded at 7:15 -- ~~'l~ ~ ~, Jason Mouring, Secr, tazy '.J