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Minutes_Mechanical and Plubming Code Board 7 19 16 Plumbing and Mechanical Board Meeting Minutes DATE: Tuesday, July 19th, 2016 TIME: 16:07 P.M. PLACE: Conference Room A, City Hall, Dubuque, IA. CHAIR: David Grothe MEMBERS PRESENT: Corey Valaskey, Gary Hillard, Tom Giese, Ron Billmeyer, Dan Hillary MEMBERS ABSENT: None STAFF: Tom Reed MEDIA: None OTHERS: Todd Carr, Jason Morning, Jack Papin Meeting called to order by David Grothe at 16:07 P.M. David Grothe swore in Ron B., Dan H., Corey V., Gary H. and Tom G. Motion to approve minutes made by Corey Valaskey and seconded by Gary Hillard. Passed 6-0 A motion was made by Tom Giese to nominate Dave Grothe as Chairman for 2016, seconded by Gary Hillard. Passed 5-0 A discussion was held on temporary heat. Todd Carr stated that we were open to opinion from the Board. Ron Billmeyer and Dan Hillary both were concerned why we were only looking at natural gas and not L.P. systems. Tom Giese talked about the natural gas utility pulling the pin on their gas meter, but that does not happen with L.P. Todd C. asked how insurance companies looked at temp heat. Todd C. asked is the board talking about the International Residential Code or just the International Mechanical Code. Todd stated that we were concerned about Public Safety more so commercial than residential. Gary Hillard stated he was concerned with residential and commercial and we should be inspecting both. He also stated that L.P. was much more dangerous than Natural Gas. Dave Grothe stated that a permit would be required for the city to inspect temporary heat. Todd stated we already had a permit in place because of the new software we will be getting and the cost of atemporary heat permit was $17.60 plus $10 issuance fee. The $17.60 would be per equipment or system. Todd asked does the board view temporary heat as only commercial or residential also. Dave Grothe stated that both commercial and residential temporary heat should be inspected. Tom Reed stated that the IMC section 110 covered temporary equipment, systems and uses other than natural gas and L.P. and that the International Fuel Gas Code covered natural and L.P. temporary equipment systems and uses. Tom Reed stated that when the city had adopted the uniform code we had temporary heat permits and when the city changed and adopted the International codes the temporary heat went away. He further stated that the 2012 International codes then instituted the temporary equipment systems and uses section authorizing the code official to issue a temporary permit for temporary equipment, systems and uses so here we are trying to determine what the permit should cover. Jason Morning asked would the inspection include temporary heat venting? Todd stated the permit would cover a gas pressure test and venting. Jason also talked about carbon monoxide detectors. Tom Reed stated that section 110 of the IMC and the IFGC were identical and even had the same section number. Todd Carr asked if Tom Reed was sure that they were the same and he said yes. Todd left to get an IFGC book after reviewing he stated they were the same. Todd stated that we would only look at Natural gas and L.P. temporary heat systems and not the other possible systems that would be covered in the Mechanical Code. It was stated we would look at all systems that used natural gas or L.P. no matter the size. Corey Valaskey asked Tom Reed if Coreys Company had a temporary heating system installed and it was short of combustion, dilution and make-up air would he tell them? Tom Reed said if he was called to look at that system and there was a permit for the system he would. Todd stated that we are trained to look for issues with incorrectly installed equipment. Todd stated that we would come out the first time and inspect the temporary equipment/system once and then we never have to inspect it again even if it is moved anywhere on the project and re-installed. Gary Hillard asked if we were not going to inspect salamanders. We will inspect natural or L.P. salamanders no matter the size. Tom Giese did not think that a motion should be made because the code sections were already adopted. David Grothe stated we can look into this again if there is a problem. David Grothe requested the next meeting be scheduled on October 20th at 4:00. Dave G. talked about scheduling meetings once a quarter. The secretary stated that the ordinance did not address when or how often the board should meet but Jenny from legal said that if the board wanted to put that in the ordinance it could be done. We will discuss at the next meeting in October. Ron Billmeyer made a motion to adjourn, Dan Hillary seconded. 6Yea 0 Nay. Meeting adjourned at 17:07. Thomas P. Reed, Secretary Approved this day of 2016 Chair Person